Seven C's Sailing Web Log

Colin Archer / William Atkins Double Ender,

Update 8-22-2010:

It was a beautiful day for sailing today! Although the winds were a bit light which is amazing for the Oregon coast!

Update 7-28-2010:

A few quick specs are:

Bluewater Boats Ingrid 38
Commissioned in 1988
Solid fiberglass hull
Insulated for northern climates.
Aluminum Spars
50 hp Westerbeke diesel engine (true hours unknown)
Force 10 Propane Galley Stove – three burner with oven
Dickinson Newport Propane bulkhead mount cabin heater
Two anchors CQR type and Danforth type
all chain rode on main anchor
Manual anchor windlass
Chartplotter Standard Horizon CP-150
Spare older handheld GPS
Radar
Depthfinder
VHF
Tiller Pilot
Mast stepped on cabin sole with compression post below
Spare alternator
Spare Starter
Spare raw water pump
Spare Filters
Misc other spares

Ingrid “Seven-C’s” now has new bottom paint!

CLICK HERE FOR MORE PICTURES OF THE INTERIOR.

We had a work day yesterday and hauled Seven C’s. I was extremely pleased as with the overall condition of the bottom. The old antifouling was in pretty good shape still and doing it’s job with no hard growth and really only a bit of slime. The hardware below had hard growth where the previous owner did not antifoul the bronze hardware. The zincs were getting to where they needed replacement. There were absolutely no blisters or damage to the bottom! That was good to see. All through hulls seem to be in excellent condition. The Dynaplate seems to be in excellent condition also. I always forget to mention that Seven C’s has an installed Dynaplate.

We found that when hauling her, we did need to take loose the back stay to avoid interference with the travellift, but that was expected. They had recently hauled another Ingrid that is now in Newport called “Spiritus”, formerly “Tawnya Dawn”. Probably one of the most beautiful Ingrid’s I have ever seen. Once we had her out of the water, we had the yard pressure wash the hull (they did a very nice job) and then they blocked her so we could go to work. We replaced all of the zincs and painted her with Petit “Hydrocoat” multi-season bottom paint. (Yes – I am making this sound quick and easy….we know better than that!)

Now, Seven C’s is just waiting to be put back in the water which we will do on Tuesday, July 13th. It is always so nice to actually have her out of the water for a first hand inspection and knowing that you have a good bottom paint on her that should last a couple of years anyway.

Because she is a sailboat and the prop doesn’t turn all that often, I went ahead and painted the prop to hopefully keep some of the barnacles at bay for a while. I don’t expect it to last long, but couldn’t hurt to try. It worked well on our Cal.

We originally had a Cal 2-29 that we refurbished and sailed in Winchester Bay, Oregon. We loved that little boat, but that was just the point – “little”. Too little really for our family of seven. Well after looking around a little we found this Ingrid 38 in Olympia Washington that was in our price range so we decided to trade our Cal for the Ingrid.

The Ingrid design is an absolutely fantastic design of boat and Bluewater Boats really did a very nice job of building the hulls for these boats.

Here is some advertising material for the plans for the Colin Archer type double ender by William Atkins:

Ingrid
A 37′ 6″ Colin Archer Type Double-Ended Ketch
By William Atkin

A Colin Archer Type Double-Ender
Ingrid is a big boat. She has all the characteristics usually associated with seagoing ability. She is the kind of boat that behaves in rough water. She can be depended upon to sail herself. She is ableness personified. And equal to any situation. Ingrid is the reply to ever so many requests for an enlargement of the double-end Thistle, whose plans appeared several months ago. And for a ketch-rigged auxiliary.
There has been retained in Ingrid practically the same beam as that of Thistle. The draft, however, has been increased to 5 feet 6 inches. Ingrid, then, is 37 feet 6 inches in overall length; 30 feet on the water line; 11 feet 4 inches beam; and 5 feet 6 inches draft.Her displacement is 25,000 pounds. There is 9,000 pounds of iron on her keel with 3,000 pounds inside ballast. The sail area is 816 square feet.

The cabin is large. Your man of six-foot height can walk through upright, and this should please many. Personally I feel that headroom is the least important feature of a small yacht’s design. However, we all do not think alike in this respect. In a boat of Ingrid’s length heights do not have to be abnormal in order to get full headroom.

The lines show a genuine redningskoite — life boat of the North Sea. As nearly perfect in form as any boat can be. It may be well to mention that man has never built any kind of vessel that will ride out any kind of sea. The sea is a tremendous thing. It smiles today; tomorrow scolds! All of which holds true of water anywhere — lake, river, harbor, bay or pond. Men who find a livelihood by working the sea know this — man, child and wife.

Ingrid Design: The “Ingrid is a William Atkin adaptation of the famous Colin Archer “Redningskoite” boats.

Double-ended boats are decendants of the Viking ship. In the late 19th century, Colin Archer, a Scotch naval architect living in Norway, achieved considerable fame for his refinement of double-ended sailboats. His designs won world recongnition for their heavy-weather characteristics.

In 1934 William Atkin, an American naval architect, took the classic lines of the “Redningskoite” and produced several sizes of this lovely vessel. Ingrid is the 38′ model and varies only slightly form the original Archer design. For example Atkin gave the Ingrid hull a finer entry for better performance.

Ingrid Philosophy: Blue Water Boats built the Ingrid (from the early ’70s to the early ’80s) for people who wanted to sail the ocean. While not all Ingrid owners plan to take their boats on ocean passages immediately, they have the assurance that their Ingrid is ready when they are.

The Ingrid differs from many other ocean sail-boats in that her design permits handling with only one or two person – as opposed to requiring a large crew. The boat is easily single-handed. She will deliver a softer, more stable ride making the trip not only exciting – but restful and comfortable as well. Strength and safety are primary in her construction.

Sailing Characteristics:The Ingrid is designed with one purpose – to provide a safe and comfortable ocean journey to her crew. Ingrid is, however a very sprightly boat in her element.

Ingrid’s full keel keeps her directionally stable resisting the pressures of waves and wind to twist her. If the sails are balanced, the course will remain true even without a hand on the helm.

The bow has a fine entry. When the Ingrid comes down off a wave crest into a trough there is no tooth-jarring “bang”! Instead, she makes a gentle “whooshing” sound. The water acts like a giant shock absorber and stops the downward motion (like catching an egg). Even the fo’c'sle berth is comfortable at sea!

Ample floatation in both the bow and stern quarters keep her ends dry. They lift easily with the waves.

This information from: http://www.boat-links.com

Specs from the factory:
BOAT SPECIFICATIONS

BOAT
Length on deck 37’8″
LWL 32’0″ Mizzen
LOA (w/sprit, rudder) 44’0″
Beam 11’4″
Draft 5’8″
Ballast 8,000 lbs. each
Displacement 26,000 lbs.
Rig: Cutter

SAILS
Main 303 sq.ft.
Jib 322 sq.ft.
Staysail 127 sq.ft.

Rated Sail Area 848 sq.ft.

Unfortunately, I can not confirm these specs at the present time. I will try to do this as time permits.

SAILING CHARACTERISTICS

When considering an ocean passage, you will be concerned with both safety and comfort. The Ingrid differs from many other ocean sailboats in that her forgiving design and easy motion permits handling with a one or two person crew. This ease of sail handling could be critical factor in an emergency situation where one person must single-hand the boat. It also gives you the freedom to cruise without adding strangers to fill out your crew.

The strength and durability of our Ingrid hull is well established; but not enough has been said about the boat’s performance at sea. Although all Ingrids, whether wood, cement, or glass have some things in common, at Blue Water Boats we have built in some characteristics that are unique to our Ingrid 38.

The Ingrid’s full keel gives her incomparable directional stability. With the sails balanced, her course will remain true without a hand on the helm.

Looking head on at the bow section, you can see that the Ingrid retains a flaring “V” section forward. This gives the water a chance to cushion the downward plunge from a wave crest. The fine entry produces such a gentle motion that even the forward berth is comfortable at sea.

We spread the ballast full fore and aft. So instead of pitching up and down in head seas, the Ingrid rides up and down in a steadier plane, like a long pole. The extra waterline length also contributes to reduction of the hobby-horsing motion so prevalent in shorter versions of this hull.

Ample flotation in both the bow and stern allows them to lift easily out of troughs and to stay dry.

HULL SPEED

The hull speed is calculated at 7.18 knots. You will probably only experience this in optimum sailing conditions, however, 6 knots while cruising is considered good – and you can do this consistently.

HEAVY AIR PERFORMANCE

Trade winds are generally 17-25mph (force 5) with 3-6 foot, whitecapped waves and some spray in the air. Much of your ocean cruising will be done under these conditions.

Off the wind, you can carry all the working sails, with perhaps a reef in the main. However, when running downwind, you will probably want to fly twin jibs (called trade-wind or down-wind sails), drop the working jib, staysail, and main, and leave the mizzen up for a steadying sail.

Rolling or oscillation of the hull while on a down-wind run is a characteristic of the Ingrid. This is because the hull has round bilges; there isn’t a hard chine to stop the roll. Experienced Ingrid sailors have found that hoisting the staysail horizontally between the main and mizzen masts is an excellent way to reduce the rolling motion to a minimum. However, the same round bilges ease the motion on any other point of sail.

When beating into the wind or on a close reach, we have found that reefing the main sail generally is not the proper technique; the mainsail usually is dropped entirely. This leaves the boat moving nicely at six knots with only the three lower sails (the jib, staysail and mizzen) flying.

We account for having to drop the main sail entirely to the increased sail area we gained when we raised the jib to the mast head position form the 3/4 position originally designed by Wm. Atkins. We changed this to allow the boat to carry more sail in light airs, to increase the head sail area in keeping with the more modern slot sail theory, and to decrease the excessive windward helm that was characteristic of the old wooden Ingrids.

As the wind picks up past the 25 mph range, most ketch sailors will furl the jib and sail under staysail and mizzen. The mizzen would probably come down next and the staysail last. Following that you would hoist storm sails.

Alternatively, we have seen some interesting new sail plans that call for a loose-footed staysail to overlap the mainsail. This means that the jib and mizzen would come down first, the main would be reefed pretty short, and the staysail and the staysail and shortened main would carry the boat closer to windward because of the overlapping slot between the staysail and main.

LIGHT AIR PERFORMANCE

The Ingrid’s performance in light air conditions has been a real surprise to all of us. You’ve heard how the heavy-displacement double-enders need 10-12 knots of breeze to get moving? Wrong! She consistently sails at 1/2 the wind speed (i.e., at 2 knots of wind, the boat moves at 1 knot) up to 8 knots of wind. Consequently you will move along nicely even if your sailing is confined to inshore waters. More importantly, you will move out of doldrums which all ocean sailors experience sooner or later.

SAFETY

No boatbuilder can make a boat that is immune to accident and misfortune. In the final analysis you are the major factor in your crew’s safety and well-being. There are, however, many things we do to give you an extra margin of safety. To illustrate: back to the ballast again, and the fact that we spread it out from the bow to the stern. After we have glassed over the ballast to the same laminate dimensions as the hull sides, you have a double-bottomed boat. Important when aground on a reef or rock!

No one likes to dwell on striking a submerged object. However, even the most experienced sailor sometimes suffers this occurrence if he travels far enough. Having the heavy glass buildup in the keel coupled with a totally encased ballast allows striking a reef, holing the bottom, and being able to sail on until repairs are made on your next haulout.

The other area we strengthen to give you and added measure of safety is the rudder. If you should run afoul, the boat probably will raise up, continue forward, and slam down again on her stern shoe. So we massively glass in the stern shoe section, and provide a large bronze shoe casting for that area; giving as much protection for the rudder as possible.

Unfortunately, the Ingrid Cockpit is just too small for our family to safely sail the ocean in so we decided to sell her after much work on her rebuilding her deteriorated interior. She is nearly complete now and looking a bit better than before.

New Price: $31,000 !

Make me a reasonable offer!
Contact Me!
Have a slightly smaller boat that you want to sell or trade?
Let me know, maybe we can work out something!

Yes – we have our Ingrid 38 up for sale. We bought it last year but realize that it does not work out well for our family of seven. With five kids, we need a bigger cockpit for safety reasons for the kids.
Having kids on deck while under way is not a good idea! Not up here in Oregon anyway!

We have done a nearly complete interior rebuild on this Ingrid! I am still working on it to finish it all up, but I am putting it up for sale while I finish it up. We will be installing solid Bamboo for the cabin sole over the new epoxy saturated plywood.

We have replaced the floors and stringers, cabin sole and as mentioned will be installing the flooring. We have rebuilt the v-berth, and salon also. There is a small, child sized sea berth now also. It will make great storage or can easily be expanded to an adult size sea berth.

I have tried to photo document all of the work I have done on the boat just as I did with our old Cal 2-29.

Bear with me as I am finishing the boat and as I continue to add to this post. I will be adding more information here as I go and more pictures too! After all – what is a post without pictures?

Please feel free to ask any questions you want to about our Ingrid. I will be adding full specs here shortly.